{"id":144,"date":"2015-02-13T04:35:57","date_gmt":"2015-02-13T04:35:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/?p=144"},"modified":"2015-02-13T13:01:39","modified_gmt":"2015-02-13T13:01:39","slug":"aritmetica-nu-minte","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2015\/02\/13\/aritmetica-nu-minte\/","title":{"rendered":"Aritmetica nu minte"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2015\/02\/13\/aritmetica-nu-minte\/\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"225px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2015\/02\/13\/aritmetica-nu-minte\/\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div><figure id=\"attachment_146\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-146\" style=\"width: 276px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/myths.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-146\" src=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/myths.jpg\" alt=\"Pe unde s-o apuc\u0103m?\" width=\"276\" height=\"183\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-146\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pe unde s-o apuc\u0103m?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Eu cred&#8230; P\u0103rerea mea&#8230; Cum naiba \u0219tim dac\u0103 p\u0103rerile noastre\u00a0au\u00a0vreo valoare? C\u00e2nd vine vorba de finan\u021be, este absolut simplu. Lu\u0103m un creion \u0219i o h\u00e2rtie \u0219i ne putem verifica\u00a0credin\u021bele \u00een c\u00e2teva clipe. \u00cen finan\u021be, 2+2 este \u00eentotdeauna egal cu 4. Creativitatea nu este binevenit\u0103 pentru c\u0103 \u00een\u00a0materie de bani\u00a0se nume\u0219te &#8220;escrocherie&#8221;. De c\u00e2te ori avem o \u00eendoial\u0103, auzim o teorie bizar\u0103 \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te banii,\u00a0cel\u00a0mai simplu este s\u0103 uit\u0103m de &#8220;p\u0103rerea mea&#8221; \u0219i s-o\u00a0formul\u0103m abia dup\u0103 ce am f\u0103cut calcule pe h\u00e2rtie \u0219i putem trage o concluzie.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_145\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-145\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/woman_calculating.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-145\" src=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/woman_calculating-300x185.jpg\" alt=\"F\u0103ce\u021bi-v\u0103 singuri calculele\" width=\"300\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/woman_calculating-300x185.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/woman_calculating.jpg 738w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-145\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">F\u0103ce\u021bi-v\u0103 singuri calculele<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Desigur, putem s\u0103 ne \u00eempotrivim oric\u0103rui lucru. Putem, de exemplu, s\u0103 neg\u0103m c\u0103 exist\u0103 gravita\u021bie, c\u0103 e o ma\u0219ina\u021biune a iudeo-masonilor impus\u0103 universului de Bilderberg. Problema este c\u0103 gravita\u021biei nu-i pas\u0103 de ceea ce credem noi\u00a0sau altcineva. Este at\u00e2t de sigur\u0103 de\u00a0sine \u00eenc\u00e2t va da cu noi\u00a0de p\u0103m\u00e2nt indiferent dac\u0103 noi credem \u00een ea sau nu. La fel stau lucrurile \u0219i \u00een finan\u021be, \u00een bani.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>S\u0103\u00a0consider\u0103m dou\u0103 cazuri ipotetice: doi rom\u00e2ni, Ion \u0219i Marin. Ion\u00a0este un b\u0103iat modest de la \u021bar\u0103 care, conservativ crescut, este obi\u0219nuit s\u0103 pun\u0103 bani deoparte. De\u0219i nu are o slujb\u0103\u00a0extrem de bun\u0103,\u00a0la 30 de ani a ajuns \u0219i c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 salariul mediu pe economie. Nu f\u0103r\u0103 sacrificii, se decide s\u0103 economiseasc\u0103 200 de lei pe lun\u0103. \u00cei investe\u0219te \u00eentr-un fond mutual care aduce 5% pe an, cu\u00a0distribu\u021biile reinvestite trimestrial.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Marin e\u00a0un om de via\u021b\u0103.\u00a0Crede c\u0103 via\u021ba merit\u0103 s\u0103 fie tr\u0103it\u0103 de to\u021bi banii. La 55, dup\u0103 o criz\u0103 existen\u021bial\u0103, brusc, realizeaz\u0103 c\u0103 dac\u0103 nu\u00a0va\u00a0economisi, \u00ee\u0219i va petrece b\u0103tr\u00e2ne\u021bile \u00een aceea\u0219i grij\u0103 \u0219i nesiguran\u021b\u0103 ca \u0219i\u00a0p\u0103rin\u021bii lui. M\u0103car ei au scuza c\u0103 au tr\u0103it pe timpul comuni\u0219tilor \u0219i\u00a0li s-a repetat c\u0103 Statul va avea grij\u0103 de ei, dup\u0103 care Statul le-a aruncat sumar: &#8220;Am min\u021bit! \u0218i ce-i cu asta?!&#8221;. Pentru c\u0103 Marin are o slujb\u0103 frumoas\u0103, important\u0103, se decide s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 \u00eentr-un mod accelerat, 1200 lei pe lun\u0103. Pentru c\u0103 este un individ priceput, g\u0103se\u0219te un fond mutual care returneaz\u0103 7% &#8211; cu 2% mai mult dec\u00e2t investi\u021bia\u00a0lui Ion.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Cine va fi mai bine preg\u0103tit pentru pensie? Este u\u0219or s\u0103 spunem &#8220;Marin&#8221; de\u0219i sunt convins c\u0103 mul\u021bi\u00a0vor spune c\u0103 &#8220;Ion&#8221; fie pentru c\u0103 s-au prins c\u0103\u00a0le \u00eentind o capcan\u0103, fie de-al dracului. &#8220;Ion&#8221; este r\u0103spunsul corect &#8211; a economisit peste 227.000 RON.\u00a0Marin n-a reu\u0219it s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 dec\u00e2t 208.500 RON. Pentru a fi fost la egalitate, Marin ar fi trebuit s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 1315 RON pe lun\u0103 &#8211; o sum\u0103 foarte\u00a0greu de pus deoparte pentru marea mas\u0103 a rom\u00e2nilor (\u0219i a mul\u021bi str\u0103ini, crede\u021bi-m\u0103).\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ion a avut timpul de partea lui. 200 de lei lunar, 100 la o chenzin\u0103, s-au transformat \u00eentr-o sum\u0103 frumoas\u0103. \u0218i n-a trebuit s\u0103 fie un expert financiar, s\u0103 g\u0103seasc\u0103 investi\u021bia cea mai profitabil\u0103. Broasca \u021bestoas\u0103 a b\u0103tut din nou iepurele.\u00a0<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Am cunoscut dou\u0103 cazuri \u00een care persoanele implicate, doi colegi, nu s-au obosit s\u0103 ia un creion \u0219i o h\u00e2rtie \u0219i asta i-a costat bani frumo\u0219i. O coleg\u0103 a contractat o ipotec\u0103 \u00een 2001, chiar \u00eenaintea reducerii ratelor. Avea deci o ipotec\u0103 de 200,000$ cu amortizare pe 25 de ani \u0219i termen de 5 ani. Dob\u00e2nda la ea era de 8%. La doar 1\/2 an dup\u0103 ce a luat ipoteca, dob\u00e2nzile sc\u0103zuser\u0103 la 5%. Am \u00eentrebat-o de ce nu\u00a0rupe contractul. Mi-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 e din cauza penaliz\u0103rilor. Penaliz\u0103rile sunt 3 luni de pl\u0103\u021bi &#8211; circa 4200$. Dob\u00e2nda pe care ar fi economisit-o &#8211; circa 6000$. Deci, un simplu drum la banc\u0103 (la noi\u00a0formalit\u0103\u021bile nu sunt complicate deloc) i-ar fi economisit 1800$. Mi-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 nu se merit\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Un alt coleg \u0219i prieten, \u00een loc s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103 ma\u0219ina cu circa 18.000$ (se cerea 19.5K pe autotrader.ca, deci cred ca putea vinde ma\u0219ina cu 18-18.5), a dat-o dealerului pentru&#8230; 12.000. L-am \u00eentrebat de ce a f\u0103cut o asemenea prostie &#8211; eram \u00eenc\u0103 proasp\u0103t \u00een Canada \u0219i spuneam lucrurilor pe nume. Mi-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 astfel a economisit taxele. Deci, \u00een loc s\u0103 dea 14.5% &#8211; TVA-ul din Ontario de la acea vreme &#8211; pe 20.000$, c\u00e2t era ma\u0219ina nou\u0103, d\u0103dea numai pe\u00a0cei 8000 care r\u0103m\u00e2neau de pl\u0103tit. Iar\u0103\u0219i am pus m\u00e2na pe creion \u0219i h\u00e2rtie am f\u0103cut calculele &#8211; ca s\u0103 m\u0103 dumiresc pe mine \u00eensumi care situa\u021bie e mai avantajoas\u0103. Economia pe care el o f\u0103cuse d\u00e2nd ma\u0219ina la dealership ca trade-in s-a tradus \u00een 1740. Banii pierdu\u021bi pentru c\u0103 nu o v\u00e2nduse el \u00eensu\u0219i: 6000. &#8220;Eiii, da, dar nu m-am chinuit, s-o dau la ziar, s\u0103 fac poze&#8221;.\u00a0Pentru el doua-trei zile de &#8220;munc\u0103&#8221; nu valorau 4300$ (cam 3 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, poate chiar 4, de salar).<\/p>\n<p>Weekend pl\u0103cut. Fi\u021bi prosperi!<\/p>\n<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2015\/02\/13\/aritmetica-nu-minte\/\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"225px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2015\/02\/13\/aritmetica-nu-minte\/\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eu cred&#8230; P\u0103rerea mea&#8230; Cum naiba \u0219tim dac\u0103 p\u0103rerile noastre\u00a0au\u00a0vreo valoare? C\u00e2nd vine vorba de finan\u021be, este absolut simplu. Lu\u0103m un creion \u0219i o h\u00e2rtie \u0219i ne putem verifica\u00a0credin\u021bele \u00een c\u00e2teva clipe. \u00cen finan\u021be, 2+2 este \u00eentotdeauna egal cu 4. Creativitatea nu este binevenit\u0103 pentru c\u0103 \u00een\u00a0materie de bani\u00a0se nume\u0219te &#8220;escrocherie&#8221;. De c\u00e2te ori avem o \u00eendoial\u0103, auzim o teorie bizar\u0103 \u00een ceea ce prive\u0219te banii,\u00a0cel\u00a0mai simplu este s\u0103 uit\u0103m de &#8220;p\u0103rerea mea&#8221; \u0219i s-o\u00a0formul\u0103m abia dup\u0103 ce am f\u0103cut calcule pe h\u00e2rtie \u0219i putem trage o concluzie. Desigur, putem s\u0103 ne \u00eempotrivim oric\u0103rui lucru. Putem, de exemplu, s\u0103 neg\u0103m c\u0103 exist\u0103 gravita\u021bie, c\u0103 e o ma\u0219ina\u021biune a iudeo-masonilor impus\u0103 universului de Bilderberg. Problema este c\u0103 gravita\u021biei nu-i pas\u0103 de ceea ce credem noi\u00a0sau altcineva. Este at\u00e2t de sigur\u0103 de\u00a0sine \u00eenc\u00e2t va da cu noi\u00a0de p\u0103m\u00e2nt indiferent dac\u0103 noi credem \u00een ea sau nu. La fel stau lucrurile \u0219i \u00een finan\u021be, \u00een bani. S\u0103\u00a0consider\u0103m dou\u0103 cazuri ipotetice: doi rom\u00e2ni, Ion \u0219i Marin. Ion\u00a0este un b\u0103iat modest de la \u021bar\u0103 care, conservativ crescut, este obi\u0219nuit s\u0103 pun\u0103 bani deoparte. De\u0219i nu are o slujb\u0103\u00a0extrem de bun\u0103,\u00a0la 30 de ani a ajuns \u0219i c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 salariul mediu pe economie. Nu f\u0103r\u0103 sacrificii, se decide s\u0103 economiseasc\u0103 200 de lei pe lun\u0103. \u00cei investe\u0219te \u00eentr-un fond mutual care aduce 5% pe an, cu\u00a0distribu\u021biile reinvestite trimestrial.\u00a0 Marin e\u00a0un om de via\u021b\u0103.\u00a0Crede c\u0103 via\u021ba merit\u0103 s\u0103 fie tr\u0103it\u0103 de to\u021bi banii. La 55, dup\u0103 o criz\u0103 existen\u021bial\u0103, brusc, realizeaz\u0103 c\u0103 dac\u0103 nu\u00a0va\u00a0economisi, \u00ee\u0219i va petrece b\u0103tr\u00e2ne\u021bile \u00een aceea\u0219i grij\u0103 \u0219i nesiguran\u021b\u0103 ca \u0219i\u00a0p\u0103rin\u021bii lui. M\u0103car ei au scuza c\u0103 au tr\u0103it pe timpul comuni\u0219tilor \u0219i\u00a0li s-a repetat c\u0103 Statul va avea grij\u0103 de ei, dup\u0103 care Statul le-a aruncat sumar: &#8220;Am min\u021bit! \u0218i ce-i cu asta?!&#8221;. Pentru c\u0103 Marin are o slujb\u0103 frumoas\u0103, important\u0103, se decide s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 \u00eentr-un mod accelerat, 1200 lei pe lun\u0103. Pentru c\u0103 este un individ priceput, g\u0103se\u0219te un fond mutual care returneaz\u0103 7% &#8211; cu 2% mai mult dec\u00e2t investi\u021bia\u00a0lui Ion.\u00a0 Cine va fi mai bine preg\u0103tit pentru pensie? Este u\u0219or s\u0103 spunem &#8220;Marin&#8221; de\u0219i sunt convins c\u0103 mul\u021bi\u00a0vor spune c\u0103 &#8220;Ion&#8221; fie pentru c\u0103 s-au prins c\u0103\u00a0le \u00eentind o capcan\u0103, fie de-al dracului. &#8220;Ion&#8221; este r\u0103spunsul corect &#8211; a economisit peste 227.000 RON.\u00a0Marin n-a reu\u0219it s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 dec\u00e2t 208.500 RON. Pentru a fi fost la egalitate, Marin ar fi trebuit s\u0103 str\u00e2ng\u0103 1315 RON pe lun\u0103 &#8211; o sum\u0103 foarte\u00a0greu de pus deoparte pentru marea mas\u0103 a rom\u00e2nilor (\u0219i a mul\u021bi str\u0103ini, crede\u021bi-m\u0103).\u00a0 Ion a avut timpul de partea lui. 200 de lei lunar, 100 la o chenzin\u0103, s-au transformat \u00eentr-o sum\u0103 frumoas\u0103. \u0218i n-a trebuit s\u0103 fie un expert financiar, s\u0103 g\u0103seasc\u0103 investi\u021bia cea mai profitabil\u0103. Broasca \u021bestoas\u0103 a b\u0103tut din nou iepurele.\u00a0 Am cunoscut dou\u0103 cazuri \u00een care persoanele implicate, doi colegi, nu s-au obosit s\u0103 ia un creion \u0219i o h\u00e2rtie \u0219i asta i-a costat bani frumo\u0219i. O coleg\u0103 a contractat o ipotec\u0103 \u00een 2001, chiar \u00eenaintea reducerii ratelor. Avea deci o ipotec\u0103 de 200,000$ cu amortizare pe 25 de ani \u0219i termen de 5 ani. Dob\u00e2nda la ea era de 8%. La doar 1\/2 an dup\u0103 ce a luat ipoteca, dob\u00e2nzile sc\u0103zuser\u0103 la 5%. Am \u00eentrebat-o de ce nu\u00a0rupe contractul. Mi-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 e din cauza penaliz\u0103rilor. Penaliz\u0103rile sunt 3 luni de pl\u0103\u021bi &#8211; circa 4200$. Dob\u00e2nda pe care ar fi economisit-o &#8211; circa 6000$. Deci, un simplu drum la banc\u0103 (la noi\u00a0formalit\u0103\u021bile nu sunt complicate deloc) i-ar fi economisit 1800$. Mi-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 nu se merit\u0103. Un alt coleg \u0219i prieten, \u00een loc s\u0103 v\u00e2nd\u0103 ma\u0219ina cu circa 18.000$ (se cerea 19.5K pe autotrader.ca, deci cred ca putea vinde ma\u0219ina cu 18-18.5), a dat-o dealerului pentru&#8230; 12.000. L-am \u00eentrebat de ce a f\u0103cut o asemenea prostie &#8211; eram \u00eenc\u0103 proasp\u0103t \u00een Canada \u0219i spuneam lucrurilor pe nume. Mi-a r\u0103spuns c\u0103 astfel a economisit taxele. Deci, \u00een loc s\u0103 dea 14.5% &#8211; TVA-ul din Ontario de la acea vreme &#8211; pe 20.000$, c\u00e2t era ma\u0219ina nou\u0103, d\u0103dea numai pe\u00a0cei 8000 care r\u0103m\u00e2neau de pl\u0103tit. Iar\u0103\u0219i am pus m\u00e2na pe creion \u0219i h\u00e2rtie am f\u0103cut calculele &#8211; ca s\u0103 m\u0103 dumiresc pe mine \u00eensumi care situa\u021bie e mai avantajoas\u0103. Economia pe care el o f\u0103cuse d\u00e2nd ma\u0219ina la dealership ca trade-in s-a tradus \u00een 1740. Banii pierdu\u021bi pentru c\u0103 nu o v\u00e2nduse el \u00eensu\u0219i: 6000. &#8220;Eiii, da, dar nu m-am chinuit, s-o dau la ziar, s\u0103 fac poze&#8221;.\u00a0Pentru el doua-trei zile de &#8220;munc\u0103&#8221; nu valorau 4300$ (cam 3 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, poate chiar 4, de salar). Weekend pl\u0103cut. Fi\u021bi prosperi!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[343,346],"tags":[381,408,437,492],"class_list":["post-144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-educatie","category-note","tag-calcule","tag-credinte","tag-economii","tag-numere"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=144"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":148,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144\/revisions\/148"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=144"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=144"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=144"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}