{"id":386,"date":"2016-12-30T19:31:04","date_gmt":"2016-12-30T19:31:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/?p=386"},"modified":"2016-12-30T20:28:00","modified_gmt":"2016-12-30T20:28:00","slug":"practica-ne-salveaza-din-bratele-teoriei","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2016\/12\/30\/practica-ne-salveaza-din-bratele-teoriei\/","title":{"rendered":"Practica ne salveaz\u0103 din bra\u021bele teoriei"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2016\/12\/30\/practica-ne-salveaza-din-bratele-teoriei\/\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"225px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2016\/12\/30\/practica-ne-salveaza-din-bratele-teoriei\/\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div><p>Am mai spus &#8211; \u0219tiu c\u00e2t de intimidant poate fi investirea printr-un brokeraj, la una din bursele lumii (NYSE, TSX, LSE, DAX etc.). Dar nu trebuie s\u0103 fie \u0219i acum voi demonstra cu poze c\u0103 achizi\u021bionarea c\u00e2torva ac\u021biuni ale unei companii sau a c\u00e2torva unit\u0103\u021bi ale unui ETF este un proces simplu, intuitiv.<\/p>\n<p>Pozele sunt luate din contul meu de investi\u021bii de la Questrade. La alt brokerage, lucrurile vor ar\u0103ta diferit (fiecare intitu\u021bie are o platform\u0103 proprie, la care interfa\u021ba nu va fi identic\u0103 &#8211; dar conceptul este similar). <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Prima oar\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 c\u0103ut\u0103m simbolul ETF-ului\/companiei pe care dorim s\u0103-l achizi\u021bion\u0103m. Acest simbol depinde de pia\u021ba pe care ac\u021biunile\/unit\u0103\u021bile sunt tranzac\u021bionate. De exemplu, acest VVL, pe care Questrade (firma prin care cumpar\/vand) \u00eel identific\u0103 cu VVL.TO (ca s\u0103 \u0219tiu c\u0103 este cump\u0103rat pe TSX, pe bursa canadian\u0103 din Toronto), are pe London Stock Exchange simbolul VVAL (tranzac\u021bionat, desigur, \u00een lire sterline) sau, \u00een US, <span class=\"ng-binding\">VTV (\u00een USD). Componen\u021ba lor este identic\u0103. Personal, Questrade, m\u0103 las\u0103 s\u0103 cump\u0103r direct doar de pe NYSE, Nasdaq, TSX. <strong>Nu are importan\u021b\u0103 dec\u00eet la nivelul bancnotei folosite &#8211; ca s\u0103 nu trebuiasc\u0103 s\u0103 pl\u0103tim comisioane de conversie. Dac\u0103 ave\u021bi USD \u00een cont, c\u0103uta\u021bi acest ETF pe NYSE. Dac\u0103 ave\u021bi EURO, c\u0103uta\u021bi acest ETF pe una din pie\u021bele europene. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_388\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-388\" style=\"width: 308px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Cauta_ETF.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-388\" src=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Cauta_ETF.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"308\" height=\"497\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Cauta_ETF.png 308w, http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Cauta_ETF-186x300.png 186w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 308px) 100vw, 308px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-388\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cautarea simbolului investitie dorite<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Odat\u0103 ce sistemul a g\u0103sit ETF-ul dorit, \u00eencepe\u021bi plasarea ordinului. Asta se face cu informa\u021bia din figura ce urmeaz\u0103. (aceast\u0103 informa\u021bie este valabil\u0103, de obice, doar dac\u0103 pia\u021ba este deschis\u0103 &#8211; orele de func\u021bionare sunt listate pe site-ul acelei burse)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>REGIUNEA 1<\/strong><\/span> &#8211; e o zon\u0103 de informa\u021bie despre ETF-ul dorit. <strong>Last<\/strong> = ultimul pre\u021b cu care unit\u0103\u021bile au fost tranzac\u021bionate (30.82$ CAD). <strong>Bid<\/strong> = este pre\u021bul oferit de cei care doresc s\u0103 cumpere (30.75). <strong>Bid sz<\/strong> = c\u00e2\u021bi cump\u0103r\u0103tori sunt (3). <strong>Ask<\/strong> = pre\u021bul cerut de cei care v\u00e2nd (30.82). <strong>Ask sz<\/strong> = c\u00e2\u021bi v\u00eenz\u00e2tori sunt (25). Not\u0103: <em>pentru c\u0103 sunt at\u00eet de mul\u021bi v\u00eenz\u0103tori \u0219i at\u00eet de pu\u021bin cump\u0103r\u0103tori, avantajul e de partea cump\u0103r\u0103torilor, deci nu este musai s\u0103 oferim c\u00e2t cer ei. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">REGIUNEA 2<\/span> &#8211; Cantitatea pe care dorim s-o cump\u0103r\u0103m (am scris 50 de unit\u0103\u021bi)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">REGIUNEA 3<\/span> &#8211; Tipul de ordin pe care-l d\u0103m. Unele sunt simple &#8211; \u0219i doar pe ele le voi explica &#8211; altele sunt mai sofisticate (\u0219i nu orice brokeraj, banc\u0103 va avea toate tipurile de ordine). Primele 2 ordine sunt cele mai simple &#8211; complet suficiente pentru \u00eencep\u0103tori.<br \/>\n<strong>Market<\/strong> = d\u0103m c\u00e2t cere pia\u021ba (\u00een exemplul de mai sus, pia\u021ba cere 30.82). \u00cen acest caz, formularul nu va cere un pre\u021b &#8211; nu este necesar, d\u0103m pre\u021bul minim cerut de v\u00e2nz\u0103tor.<br \/>\n<strong>Limit<\/strong>\u00a0= numai mult de&#8230; (o limit\u0103). Am folosit acest tip de ordin, cu limit\u0103 de 30.75 (c\u00e2t dau ceilal\u021bi cump\u0103r\u0103tori). \u00cen acest caz, ordinul nu va fi \u00eemplinit imediat. Dac\u0103 un v\u00e2nz\u0103tor cedeaz\u0103 \u0219i accept\u0103 pre\u021bul p\u00e2n\u0103 la \u00eenchidere, ordinul va fi executat; dac\u0103 nu&#8230; vom vedea la poza urm\u0103toare ce se poate \u00eent\u00e2mpla.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Actiuni_tipordin.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-387\" src=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Actiuni_tipordin.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"401\" height=\"497\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Actiuni_tipordin.png 401w, http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Actiuni_tipordin-242x300.png 242w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 401px) 100vw, 401px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>REGIUNEA 1<\/strong><\/span> &#8211; Pre\u021bul limit\u0103 men\u021bionat &#8211; 30.75$ CAD\/unitate.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong> REGIUNEA 2<\/strong> <\/span>&#8211; La <strong>Duration<\/strong> &#8211; specific\u0103m c\u00e2t va fi acest ordin valabil. Dac\u0103 alegem <strong>Day<\/strong> (ziua \u00een curs) &#8211; ordinul r\u0103m\u00e2ne valabil p\u00e2n\u0103 ce este \u00eemplinit (un v\u00e2nz\u0103tor a acceptat pre\u021bul oferit). Dac\u0103 nimeni nu este de acord cu pre\u021bul oferit \u0219i <strong>Day<\/strong> este durata, atunci ordinul va fi anulat automat la \u00eenchiderea bursei.<br \/>\nAlte op\u021biuni sunt <strong>GTC<\/strong> = Good Till Cancelled (Valabil p\u00e2n\u0103 este anulat) = ordinul st\u0103 la nesf\u00e2r\u0219it (vorba-vine), pentru acel caz \u00een care un v\u00e2nz\u0103tor accept\u0103 pre\u021bul. <strong>GTD<\/strong> = Good Till Date (Valabil p\u00e2n\u0103 pe data&#8230;) \u0219.a.m.d. Nici aici nu exist\u0103 un standard &#8211; fiecare banc\u0103\/brokeraj accept\u0103 alte timpuri de ordine (i.e. la RBC Direct Investing, unde am fost, un ordin nu putea dep\u0103\u0219i o lun\u0103, trebuia reconfirmat lunar, altfel era anulat &#8211; deci nu aveam un <strong>GTC<\/strong>).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/PretLimita_DurataOrdin.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-389\" src=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/PretLimita_DurataOrdin.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"401\" height=\"502\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/PretLimita_DurataOrdin.png 401w, http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/PretLimita_DurataOrdin-240x300.png 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 401px) 100vw, 401px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Apoi, dup\u0103 ce suntem mul\u021bumi\u021bi, ap\u0103s\u0103m butonul <strong>BUY<\/strong> (sau SELL, dac\u0103 vindem). Sistemul ne va da \u00eenc\u0103 o \u0219ans\u0103 s\u0103 verific\u0103m c\u0103 n-am gre\u0219it ceva. S\u0103 citim cu aten\u021bie informa\u021bia: deci, am cerut s\u0103 cumpere 50 unit\u0103\u021bi de VVL.TO (Vanguard Global Value pe TSX), la nu mai mult de 30.75$ bucata. Vedem contul RRSP, de pensie din Canada (num\u0103rul a fost \u0219ters pentru motive de securitate). Vedem costul total &#8211; 1537.5 &#8211; \u0219i, mai important, vedem comisionul aferent (care e de doar 0.175CAD.<\/p>\n<p>Dac\u0103 totul e corect, ap\u0103s\u0103m SEND, dac\u0103 nu folosim cel\u0103lalt buton ca s\u0103 anul\u0103m (eventual s\u0103 mai \u00eencerc\u0103m o dat\u0103).<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_391\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-391\" style=\"width: 475px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Sumar2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-391\" src=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Sumar2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"475\" height=\"493\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Sumar2.png 475w, http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/12\/Sumar2-289x300.png 289w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 475px) 100vw, 475px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-391\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aici trebuie sa fim atenti &#8211; avem inca o sansa sa anulam comanda, daca am gresit.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Vede\u021bi? Nu este chirurgie pe creier! \u0218i nu trebuie s-o complic\u0103m, s\u0103 ne prefacem \u00een agen\u021bi de burs\u0103.<\/p>\n<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2016\/12\/30\/practica-ne-salveaza-din-bratele-teoriei\/\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"225px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/2016\/12\/30\/practica-ne-salveaza-din-bratele-teoriei\/\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Am mai spus &#8211; \u0219tiu c\u00e2t de intimidant poate fi investirea printr-un brokeraj, la una din bursele lumii (NYSE, TSX, LSE, DAX etc.). Dar nu trebuie s\u0103 fie \u0219i acum voi demonstra cu poze c\u0103 achizi\u021bionarea c\u00e2torva ac\u021biuni ale unei companii sau a c\u00e2torva unit\u0103\u021bi ale unui ETF este un proces simplu, intuitiv. Pozele sunt luate din contul meu de investi\u021bii de la Questrade. La alt brokerage, lucrurile vor ar\u0103ta diferit (fiecare intitu\u021bie are o platform\u0103 proprie, la care interfa\u021ba nu va fi identic\u0103 &#8211; dar conceptul este similar).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_s2mail":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[343,344],"tags":[459,476,479,497],"class_list":["post-386","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-educatie","category-investitii","tag-gtc","tag-limit","tag-market","tag-ordine-de-cumparare"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=386"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":393,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/386\/revisions\/393"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=386"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=386"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.2link.ca\/bugetfamilial\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=386"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}